For discussion about setting up your studio and advice on the gear and equipment within it.

By Terrahertz Thu Jun 17, 2004 10:49 pm
mpire45 wrote:
Thanks guys I'm very new to posting here but been watching for a few weeks.
And I like the vibe.

I use the MPC 3000 and if you guys ever need help with the MPC series of samplers email me.


Glad to have you here...We gotta keep exchanges ideas to help better our craft.

Vaughan aka 45


I most definately agree with this aswell.

By elmacaco Fri Jun 18, 2004 1:04 am
will do.

Ahh.. is it me or is the 60/3000 crowd growing?

:twisted:

By mpire45 Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:33 am
Ahh.. is it me or is the 60/3000 crowd growing?


I think the 60/60II/3000 have a large cult following...with good reason. I started on the 60 over a decade ago, then the 3000, moved to Ensoniq, and now I'm settled with the 2000XL/ASR-10/ASR-X/Emu XK6 combo....I want the get another 3000, but I ain't tryin to pay a grip ($2000 and up). But at $500-700, the 60's are a great deal for MPC newbies to get started.

45/Vaughan

PS. And please, no 60/1000/2000/2000XL/3000/4000 debates...It's all in the user.
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By loo2004ep Sun Jun 20, 2004 6:46 am
its al labout the soundcard u use my ******

By mpire45 Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:55 am
its al labout the soundcard u use my ******


If it was all about the soundcard, everyone would be creating great mixes. But the truth is, it takes alot more than that...I've heard terrible mixes done by cats using the best equipment...I've heard incredible mixes done by cats using low budget gear. Don't let the salesman at your local music store sell you the "this is all you need to compete with the big boys" dream...unless he's selling you a great pair of ears (the most valuable piece of audio equipment you'll ever own).

45
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By MattMatiks PG Mon Jun 21, 2004 2:19 am
I use a 2000XL... It's my first MPC and I love it, but I often wonder if I'd be more comfortable with a 3000 or 60 (I don't know anyone that has either so I can't really be sure)... Any feedback from people on why they prefer their model would be greatly appreciated as long as it doesn't lead to any arguments... LOL :lol: I'm curious to see what people think about the 3000 or 60 compared to the 2000XL...
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By BRAVO Mon Jun 21, 2004 2:32 am
The search function should aid your interests

By mpire45 Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:20 am
I'm curious to see what people think about the 3000 or 60 compared to the 2000XL...


I have a 2000XL, but I used to own and first trained on the 60/60II. I also spent many hours on the 3000. Essentially, they're all the same in alot of ways. But, I prefer the 3000's build; it's a more sturdy and well built machine made for heavy work. The 2000/2000XL feel less sturdy. The sequencers have the same feel....The 3000 and 2000XL have identical sound quality. I like the sample editing in the 2000XL over the 60/3000...
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By mesh Mon Jun 21, 2004 6:45 pm
i have a 3000 and a 2000xl. they are very similar machines. if i had to have just one, it would probably be the 2000xl just because that is what i learned on. it has features which i am used to like waveform editing and zone chop. otherwise, the 3000 is cool by itself cuz its got better filters and it comes with 8 outs and a delay effect standard. i dont ever really use them in conjunction. i keep the 2000xl at home with the rest of my gear, and i took the 3000 up to the studio i work at.

im sure there are plenty of people that would say go for the 3000, but to each his own. if i were you i would spend my money on something else: compressors? preamps? records? yeah, i would go buy $1400 worth of records.

By arctec Tue Jun 22, 2004 11:27 am
"a great pair of ears (the most valuable piece of audio equipment you'll ever own). "

110%

By Terrahertz Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:36 pm
arctec wrote:"a great pair of ears (the most valuable piece of audio equipment you'll ever own). "

110%



I agree with the great pair of ears, but the reality is you are not born with them you have to make them.

What I mean by this is experience trial and error.
Don’t expect to learn overnight how to tell between a 10 and 12 K tone
in the spectrum by using just your ears and not an analyzer.

You have to train your ears on how to tell what you’re hearing.
You need to be able to distinguish a high pass and low pass in the frequency response.

It’s like learning music notation.
You have to be able to tell between a minor 7 chord and major 7 chords.
Or else when you play is going to sound shitty because you don’t know how to tell therefore you don’t know how to hear.

And by learning these simple things. You are learning how to hear therefore having better judgment over what you’re really hearing.

Confused Anyone.

By mpire45 Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:58 pm
I agree...But, that's a part of paying your dues...Unfortunately, most people don't want to take time to learn these (and many more) important details of audio production.

I guess I over-admire the incredible audio contributions made by past (and some present) engineers and producers who worked with equipment not nearly as advanced as the equipment many of us have at our finger tips...they were the ones who had no choice but to understand the basics in great detail in order to achieve the great mix/production of a song that still sells today (i.e. Stax, Motown, Sun, etc.). Because of the lack of "due paying", production values today are at an all-time low.

Once again, I agree with you...Let's just push each other harder to achieve better.