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By moyphee Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:19 am
bomb beats wrote:
Based upon the feedback left from MPC 5000 users in this forum, it doesn't appear that there are any serious issues people run into. I have confidence that the reported bugs that have been reported here will be fixed. Forum members such as SCD have been a great resource for MPC.

Really? What forum were you on?


:lol:
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By 14k Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:27 am
Rumor on the street is that since Akai dealt the last card with the MPC-5000, Roland is dropping a "Mothership device to beat all"... for Namm 2009! Who knows? It may just be all hype and B.S. so we'll wait and see! Even if it's true, I'm the type that will read reviews and do research for months after it launches before ever considering to buy a new Sampler/Seq.

I currently own the:
Akai MPC-2000 Classic
Roland MV-8000 Classic

So I'm cool for now and not pressured to make a move! :wink:
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By bomb beats Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:59 am
Give me the MV. Roland has the best effects. Be real. Akai never really had good quality effects. Someone said the old Akai and all the old MPC's are dead. This dude used to ride the d**k of the MPC 3000 & 4000. Now, he's riding a failure. Two failures: the MPC 5000 & Fantom G. I thought the G would be the sh$t, but too people have told me to keep my Fantom X.

0 for 2.................
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By bomb beats Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:37 am
Lampdog wrote:
Askia Shaheed wrote:I will be curious to hear your thoughts on the M3 after using a Triton for so long.

I've went from Triton classic, skipped the studio and went to Extreme.

I've done the M3 virtual gui thingy on the Korg site a few times just looking around.

http://www.korg.com/M3_gui/m3vgui2.html

Alot of the menus I'm already familiar with. If you've seen the layout of and the actual main screen of the m3 and
extreme, you'd see that the m3 main screen layout is based on the same stuff. I don't see a big learning curve at all for
me. I'm already knowing I'll be comfortable with it.

Back on topic.
I won't hijack anymore sorry to infect this thread, I'll stfu now...
I like some of the new Korg stuff. But they all remind me of the Triton. So, I just kept my Triton Studio. It's maxed out with all the cards installed. The OASYS is a major jump and expensive.
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By bomb beats Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:53 am
diegoeskryptic wrote:
Sovereign wrote:
diegoeskryptic wrote:mods please close this thread. the guy who started this thread has since moved on to a MPC 5000!!!


No reason to close it because if he's like some other people on here after having it about a month will try to sell it every other week on eBay, just to find out no one is interested.
So he may still be interested but now be wondering why did I choose the 5k or why I am stuck with even at a chaep price..

Amazing how quickly some people abandon a piece of gear yet try to say they knew how to use it.



The 5k is mad easy to use. If your accustomed to the other MPC's then you wont have a problem with this baby. Not only did they do away with features, they did away with the complexity as well. I can say I knew how to use it. Its no diff than ne other mpc. jsut less steps and some of the features are gone until the next update...

The only issue I had was routing effects, which I soon learned was not possible with the way I wanted to do it.

But yeah, I sold my 5k about 10 mins ago. So contrary to what your saying, someone was interested in it.

You Didn't???? But, you got 2 of them. I forgot!
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By Askia Shaheed Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:18 am
1. The MV’s 128 MIDI tracks with only 16 parts is embarrassing for a multi-timbral sampler.

2. MPs Effects. It really doesn’t matter if you believe what I posted or not. But the fact remains, I wrote about a real world test and the results are accurate.

3. So now you claim that the MVs discontinued expensive output board is an option because most don’t use it? Of course it isn’t used in the bedroom studios where you will find 99% of MVs. But with your line of thought, you don’t need a CD drive in an MP since you can load files directly from a CF card (which the MV doesn’t have). With the addition of the USB functions, you can access the MPs hard drive and CF card simultaneously from a PC/Mac.

4. The MVs timing issues: http://www.mvnation.com/phpBB/viewtopic ... 22&t=11834. You don’t have such issues using an MP. No one would trust a machine that goes out of sync in a studio. Very few professionals use an MV anyway. Have you listened to Rza’s tracks since he started using an MV? It’s like the MV has robbed his music of all it’s soul (and I am not just talking about samples).

5. Rumor on the street is that the MV-8800 is discontinued to make room for the MV-9000. Roger Linn/Dave Smith is preparing everyone with their Linn Drum II. Akai is about to shock all with the release of the MPC 5000XL, the first keyboard version of an MPC with full-sized MPC pads to become the new leader in keyboard sampling workstations (since some of you believe the Fantom G is a failure) and remain the leader in pad-oriented workstations.

I really enjoy having this friendly debate even though it means nothing to the outside world. But....even with all these different tools at our disposal, I have yet to hear much of anything coming from you guys as far as music. Having 10,000 sounds that are limited to 1 multi-effect processor doesn't mean anything but someone posting what they read from a users manual they downloaded.

This dude used to ride the d**k of the MPC 3000 & 4000. Now, he's riding a failure. Two failures: the MPC 5000 & Fantom G.

I warned you several times to stop taking things personal because its not. But if your beatz are wack with your MP, I suspect they will be wack with an MV. Real-talk...(as opposed to fake talk) :lol:
By moyphee Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:07 am
1. I knew you'd come to grips with the 5000 poor showing in this area.

2. MPs Effects. It really doesn’t matter if you believe what I posted or not. But the fact remains, I wrote about a real world test and the results are accurate.


Says who?

3. So now you claim that the MVs discontinued expensive output board is an option because most don’t use it?

Yes, and the same was true with the 4000 and it's options. I does no good to give you multi outs and and then chump down the feature set.
5. Rumor on the street ....

You can add a stable MPC-5000, a single new feature since it's failed launch( relaunch and re-relaunch) and v2.0 to that list of unconfirmed garbage.
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By Lampdog Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:07 pm
bomb beats wrote:I like some of the new Korg stuff. But they all remind me of the Triton. So, I just kept my Triton Studio.
It's maxed out with all the cards installed. The OASYS is a major jump and expensive.

I can handle getting the oasys, no problem, but for the money I don't see myself using all the features to the max
like that though. I'm cool on getting the M3. I like the triton interface, I'm super comfortable with it. I wish I had have bought
moss board back in the day though. No biggie.
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By bomb beats Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:04 pm
Lampdog the Oasysy is an awesome board. It really is extremely overpriced. Korg hasn't done anything new with them. People have got to buy them first. I don't think I'll ever get rid of the Triton Studio.

Jeromee. Why do you wallpaper the forum with this useless garbage. I don't know why the mediator for the forum doesn't delete that mess.
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By Askia Shaheed Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:11 pm
The MPC 5000 in action. "Multisampled" piano samples recorded and edited on the MPC 5000, and then mapped to a sample program using the tune function. The program was run through the 5Ks multi-effects processor running a Reverb-Small. The original piano composition was programmed on the 5K. All of this without keymap type sampling everyone talks about, done within a few minutes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgJiIIiKp3g


Tutorials on how to get the most out of the 5K coming soon for novice users and those that never touched a 5K!
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=106185
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By Coz Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:27 pm
4. The MVs timing issues: http://www.mvnation.com/phpBB/viewtopic ... 22&t=11834. You don’t have such issues using an MP. No one would trust a machine that goes out of sync in a studio.


The workaround for this problem seems straight-forward and only affects long samples in the first place. A machine that is buggy and crashes unpredictably would give me more of a headache.
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By bomb beats Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:32 pm
Jeromee I don't believe Akal will fix the 5000. They will produce something new that JJ can't write to. Be real, think about it.
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By Askia Shaheed Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:34 pm
Coz wrote:
4. The MVs timing issues: http://www.mvnation.com/phpBB/viewtopic ... 22&t=11834. You don’t have such issues using an MP. No one would trust a machine that goes out of sync in a studio.


The workaround for this problem seems straight-forward and only affects long samples in the first place. A machine that is buggy and crashes unpredictably would give me more of a headache.


I would agree that having a buggy machine that crashes is a headache. That is why I only use the MPC 5000. I spent the entire day programming music on my 5K...no issues at all. And certainly didn't have any isses with long samples going out of sync. That is a bug in the MVs OS that will not be fixed. I am out, I have some more videos and tutorials to share.....in addition to finishing my album.

bomb beats wrote:I don't believe Akal will fix the 5000.

Not only will they fix problems both real and "perceived", user feature requests will eventually make it to an MPC near you. While you guys wait for it, I will be making music....
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By bomb beats Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:56 pm
Askia Shaheed wrote:1. The MV’s 128 MIDI tracks with only 16 parts is embarrassing for a multi-timbral sampler

What more do you expect. All of Roland's keyboard workstations, groove boxes all have the same 16 parts. Even Korg, Yamah, and every other manufacturer has the same thing. Tritons, Motifs, Fantoms, K2000-2600s have 16. I think the Oasys has 32.You can thank Roger Linn for having more. NuAkai is just following his work.

This is the only thing you can find wrong with the MV's. I think Roland should have added 4 midi outs to the MV8800 so it could compete with the MPC4000. It needs it to be a complete work station. Beside Kurzweil, no one has better effects, compressors and mastering than Roland.
Come with something better!¡!¡