Exchange tips and tricks for the Akai MPC4000
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By Askia Shaheed Sun Dec 21, 2008 4:11 pm
When creating a Keygroup Program, what is the maximum number of keygroups you can create within that program?
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By AWW_NAWW Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:05 pm
Askia Shaheed wrote:96 keygroups x 4 layers per keygroup? Or something else?

No, 96 samples in one keygroup x 4 layers per key and you can have up to 128 keygroups/programs per multi and 128 multis per session
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By Askia Shaheed Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:18 pm
AWW_NAWW wrote:
Askia Shaheed wrote:96 keygroups x 4 layers per keygroup? Or something else?

No, 96 samples in one keygroup x 4 layers per key and you can have up to 128 keygroups/programs per multi and 128 multis per session

Thanks for clearing that up. But when you say 96 samples in one keygroup...are you saying one keygroup can have 96 different samples assigned (4 layers per key) or are you talking about 1 sample assigned 96 times in a keygroup (w/ 4 layers per key)?
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By AWW_NAWW Mon Dec 22, 2008 2:17 am
Askia Shaheed wrote:
AWW_NAWW wrote:
Askia Shaheed wrote:96 keygroups x 4 layers per keygroup? Or something else?

No, 96 samples in one keygroup x 4 layers per key and you can have up to 128 keygroups/programs per multi and 128 multis per session

Thanks for clearing that up. But when you say 96 samples in one keygroup...are you saying one keygroup can have 96 different samples assigned (4 layers per key) or are you talking about 1 sample assigned 96 times in a keygroup (w/ 4 layers per key)?

Yes, one keygroup can have 96 different samples assigned (4 layers per key)
Example:
Layer 1 String x 96
Layer 2 Horn x 96
Layer 3 Piano x 96
Layer 4 Flute x 96
Can equal 1 Keygroup and Im not talking about just pitching the sound up as you go through the scale Im talking about each key having its own sample. just as if you sat down with it in a room and recorded each note of a piano. if you wanted to set it up you could have up to 128 of those per multi
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By McSmooth Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:35 am
Aww naww is refering to a "keygroup program" as a "keygroup" which might be confusing you. Each keygroup program can have 128 keygroups. Each keygroup can contain 4 zones and each zone can have a mono or stereo sample assigned. So a keygroup program could have up to 512 samples.

96 is the number of pads that can be assigned to a drum program... 16 pads times 6 banks.
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By Askia Shaheed Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:44 am
McSmooth, thanks for clearing that up. AWW_NAWW, thanks for your responses too..even though you had me believing Keygroup programs have keygroups, which have sub-keygroups :P
By dtaa pla muk Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:19 pm
mmmmmm multi layered keygroups...sure wish we had that in jjos for standalone
guess that's why i have reaper but my hats off
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By Blue Haze Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:55 pm
Askia Shaheed wrote:McSmooth, thanks for clearing that up. AWW_NAWW, thanks for your responses too..even though you had me believing Keygroup programs have keygroups, which have sub-keygroups :P



Keygroups have keyspans so can use less samples like to cover 3 to 5 keys to say to make piano then layer 4 deep to that one keyspan. Now you can layer various programs/split the keyboards, blend the sounds and even get different sounds by velocity the world is ours.

With synth sounds you don't need alot of samples to cover octaves.

But with tradional realistic instruments like a piano the more you have
The more realistic is sounds which is why they go into gigabytes of memory.

The beauty of sampling is something like a hairdryer like EASY MOE BEE did
on Flava in your ear blend with tradional to come up with something original!!
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By dabmeister Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:37 pm
Question, has anybody stretched their 4k anywhere close to these limits?
By diegoeskryptic Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:40 am
Blue Haze wrote:The beauty of sampling is something like a hairdryer like EASY MOE BEE did
on Flava in your ear blend with tradional to come up with something original!!


tradional= traditional
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By LvngDead Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:09 am
wtf..?

blue haze, can you explain this EASY MO BEE situation? mixing traditional with new? HUUUUUH????
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By Blue Haze Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:03 am
diegoeskryptic wrote:
Blue Haze wrote:The beauty of sampling is something like a hairdryer like EASY MOE BEE did
on Flava in your ear blend with tradional to come up with something original!!


tradional= traditional


Thanks professer :lol: