What features do you think will be added in 2009?

my bad. that was in regards to what YOU KNOW about the products at namm.

I think they will improve the sequencer, add more features from the 4000, and just fix the bugs. From reading the manual, I don't see what else it needs. They would be smart to improve the chopping, though.

I don't think I'll ever get a chance to use a mpc4000 but in a few weeks I can test the 5000 and see what the fuss is all about. Insha Allah.

LvngDead wrote:my bad. that was in regards to what YOU KNOW about the products at namm.

I think they will improve the sequencer, add more features from the 4000, and just fix the bugs. From reading the manual, I don't see what else it needs. They would be smart to improve the chopping, though.

I don't think I'll ever get a chance to use a mpc4000 but in a few weeks I can test the 5000 and see what the fuss is all about. Insha Allah.

Adding MPC 4000 features would be cool to basically end the debate whether it lives up to the MPC 5000 name. Improving Chop Shop is high on my list.

But I would like to see brand new innovative features that no machine currently has.

But I would like to see brand new innovative features that no machine currently has.

I hate it when companies try to reinvent the wheel by adding unneeded gimmicks. There are enough good tried and tested features on competing products and past MPC / JJ to keep Numark busy and make the 5k a real powerhouse. I don't by a music production product for originality and innovation. Save that for the science fair. I buy music gear to help me create music fast and intuitive with a great sound. Other than that I just want it to work properly.

b-righteous wrote:

But I would like to see brand new innovative features that no machine currently has.

I hate it when companies try to reinvent the wheel by adding unneeded gimmicks. There are enough good tried and tested features on competing products and past MPC / JJ to keep Numark busy and make the 5k a real powerhouse. I don't by a music production product for originality and innovation. Save that for the science fair. I buy music gear to help me create music fast and intuitive with a great sound. Other than that I just want it to work properly.

What companies are you talking about? What features do you consider a gimmick?

I am speaking for me personally....if the past features of MPCs and competeing products are enough...than I would simply use those products and not need an MPC 5000. Those machines do the job (just like the 5K) but can use some improvements as well.

Like...here is a suggestion for an improvement:
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=107620

mpc3500 showed off what he could do with using a patched phrase. I have never used a patched phrase for anything..not in 3 years. But I can see some possibilities. It would be awesome if you can edit the MIDI sequence data in a patched phrase....like re-arrange the chops. Or how about chopping a sample and creating a program, and then record a sequence. Than export this sequence as a patched phrase. Let me add this to my feature requests

HOW ABOUT PIX JAM! my bad, Roland has already cornered the market on that.

b-righteous wrote:

But I would like to see brand new innovative features that no machine currently has.

I hate it when companies try to reinvent the wheel by adding unneeded gimmicks. There are enough good tried and tested features on competing products and past MPC / JJ to keep Numark busy and make the 5k a real powerhouse. I don't by a music production product for originality and innovation. Save that for the science fair. I buy music gear to help me create music fast and intuitive with a great sound. Other than that I just want it to work properly.

What companies are you talking about? What features do you consider a gimmick?

I am speaking for me personally....if the past features of MPCs and competeing products are enough...than I would simply use those products and not need an MPC 5000. Those machines do the job (just like the 5K) but can use some improvements as well.

I won't argue with that but actually that new feature you came up with feature already exist on another product. What I mean by reinventing the wheel is just a feature that is trying to be different for the sake of innovation. I don't mind something new if it is actually useful. My point is that there are enough features already on other products that will be plenty enough to draw from without trying to test the waters with something innovative. Just don't like features being tacked on for flash that either don't fit or enhance the product or not well implemented. All these samplers have short comings but may have useful features that can be copied without the guessing game.

b-righteous wrote:

What companies are you talking about? What features do you consider a gimmick?

I am speaking for me personally....if the past features of MPCs and competeing products are enough...than I would simply use those products and not need an MPC 5000. Those machines do the job (just like the 5K) but can use some improvements as well.

I won't argue with that but actually that new feature you came up with feature already exist on another product. What I mean by reinventing the wheel is just a feature that is trying to be different for the sake of innovation. I don't mind something new if it is actually useful. My point is that there are enough features already on other products that will be plenty enough to draw from without trying to test the waters with something innovative. Just don't like features being tacked on for flash that either don't fit or enhance the product or not well implemented. All these samplers have short comings but may have useful features that can be copied without the guessing game.

Can you be more specific?

I know I'm not tripping, but I did see Jahrome on-line a few minutes ago responding to a post, but it apparently got blocked or deleted.

dabmeister wrote:I know I'm not tripping, but I did see Jahrome on-line a few minutes ago responding to a post, but it apparently got blocked or deleted.

Oh....snap. There must be a new MPC on the horizon Either that..or you are seeing ghosts

First of all,we need grid edit fixed,after creating sample program and saving it.Grid edit becomes unavailable for playback or to record in real time.That must be fixed.

Freezing up issues while recording needs to be look at also,we loosing a lot of work because of it.

Now new features i want to see add on.Improving chop shop,for example Patched Phrase could be improved by being able to sliced samples afterwards.
I'd like to see some improvements in synth mode,it would be great if we could use samples and then adjust it and play with it the way we want it like in reason/cubase.
Being able to preview patches before load them.
I'd like to see key-group add on, more effects a q-link improved.
Assign samples by alphabetical order instead of going through 100 of samples.For example if you assign sample 1 to pad #1 sample 2 should tap a way not to go though them all again.We should be able to access the ram via usb.

Can you be more specific?

Mv 8000- Pix jam
MPC 5k- sub par synth instead of enhancing chop shop with basic functionality because they did not want to copy JJ.

JJ-pong.

Askia Shaheed wrote:Oh....snap. There must be a new MPC on the horizon Either that..or you are seeing ghosts

in my Gary Coleman voice I respond

What you talkin bout Willis?

ToOxSicK wrote:Now new features i want to see add on.Improving chop shop,for example Patched Phrase could be improved by being able to sliced samples afterwards.
I'd like to see some improvements in synth mode,it would be great if we could use samples and then adjust it and play with it the way we want it like in reason/cubase.
Being able to preview patches before load them.
I'd like to see key-group add on, more effects a q-link improved.
Assign samples by alphabetical order instead of going through 100 of samples.For example if you assign sample 1 to pad #1 sample 2 should tap a way not to go though them all again.We should be able to access the ram via usb.

1. Samples are chopped/edited first and then you trun them into a patched phrase. Why do you need to reslice a patched phrase?
2. What additional benefits do you receive by placing samples in a synth program? I wasn't aware you can add your own samples into Reason's Subtractor synth.
3. I don't think (could be wrong though) that the MPC 5K was built with this in mind. It was built for data transfer from hard drives and may not be possible.

The release of OS version 1.03 would be just fine for me... that would make me happy. it's looooooong overdue.

Askia Shaheed wrote:

ToOxSicK wrote:Now new features i want to see add on.Improving chop shop,for example Patched Phrase could be improved by being able to sliced samples afterwards.
I'd like to see some improvements in synth mode,it would be great if we could use samples and then adjust it and play with it the way we want it like in reason/cubase.
Being able to preview patches before load them.
I'd like to see key-group add on, more effects a q-link improved.
Assign samples by alphabetical order instead of going through 100 of samples.For example if you assign sample 1 to pad #1 sample 2 should tap a way not to go though them all again.We should be able to access the ram via usb.

1. Samples are chopped/edited first and then you trun them into a patched phrase. Why do you need to reslice a patched phrase?
2. What additional benefits do you receive by placing samples in a synth program? I wasn't aware you can add your own samples into Reason's Subtractor synth.
3. I don't think (could be wrong though) that the MPC 5K was built with this in mind. It was built for data transfer from hard drives and may not be possible.

1 well i know that,when you have a long sample it would be better to chop it after you patched phrase.but no big deal.
2 On synth mode would be helpful if could browser patches not samples my bad,like when you looking for right bass you gotta load it takes a lot of time to find the one that goes with beat in progress by the time you find the right one you don't feel making beat anymore.

i also want to add some features from jj os i like
real time timestretch/pitch shift
program for musical instruments
global program edit
grid edit midi/qlink/drum-6 pad mode/16pad mode and grid edit loop mode
bit convert
Program pad mode(TRIM)
16/24/32bit(not on jjos but would be good to have)