Post your views and questions about the Akai MPC2500
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By DJ Hellfire Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:10 am
How exactly does Extract work? I know what it does and I use it often, but it's giving me an issue. I am trying to extrac a piece of a sample and it's telling me I have Insufficient Memory. Now here's the deal. I have 6.4MB free and the piece I am trying to extract is about 1 second long and can't be anymore than a half a MB. The other thing is that the sample I am trying to extract the piece from is about 40MB. Could that be why? Does it duplicate the entire sound in memory or something to extract a piece? Because I have more than enough free space to extract the small piece I want. Thanks!
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By DJ Hellfire Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:00 am
nod records wrote:how much memory do you have in your MP?

i use the extract feature all the time and haven't had this prob. yet. are you using the akai or jjos?


JJOS1. I got 64MB RAM from ebay. Advertised as 128MB, but it has 4 chips per side. The guy said I can return it once I recieve my free RAM from the AKAI rebate promotion. But still, I have plenty RAM free to extract the small piece I wanted. I already worked around it, but it ended up costing me some time.
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By nod records Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:12 am
so you put the 128MB in it already? did you make sure you installed it correctly.

that's a great feature of the 2500, you gotta be able to use it. makes chopping up samples easy.

did you try messing with the chop shop feat. yet. it works real good too. i just started using it and i've been getting good results. you can use the auto or equal, then go in and edit/fine tune the chops. works great. since i started using that, i haven't been using extract as much.

even still, you want that extract to work for you. it def. comes in handy.

i've been on that 2500 like it's my job. diggin and leanrn'. you should holler, we can def. help each other out, since we both are new to it and both use to use the 2000XL.

i'd like to get your take on the swing & note repeat of the 2500. i doesn't seem as tight as the 2000XL to me. everything else blows the 2000XL out the water tho. the only things that bother me bout the 2500 is the swing & note repeat and the punch of it is good, but seems like its missing mid range freqs, if that makes sense. that's not a big deal, cause you can eq afterwards. overall i'm loving the editing tho.

i should have done my research before i copped it tho. seems like the MPC 4000 does all the 2500 does and swings better and sounds punchier.

holler
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By DJ Hellfire Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:31 am
nod records wrote:1. so you put the 128MB in it already? did you make sure you installed it correctly.

that's a great feature of the 2500, you gotta be able to use it. makes chopping up samples easy.

2. did you try messing with the chop shop feat. yet. it works real good too. i just started using it and i've been getting good results. you can use the auto or equal, then go in and edit/fine tune the chops. works great. since i started using that, i haven't been using extract as much.

even still, you want that extract to work for you. it def. comes in handy.

i've been on that 2500 like it's my job. diggin and leanrn'. you should holler, we can def. help each other out, since we both are new to it and both use to use the 2000XL.

i'd like to get your take on the swing & note repeat of the 2500. i doesn't seem as tight as the 2000XL to me. everything else blows the 2000XL out the water tho. the only things that bother me bout the 2500 is the swing & note repeat and the punch of it is good, but seems like its missing mid range freqs, if that makes sense. that's not a big deal, cause you can eq afterwards. overall i'm loving the editing tho.

i should have done my research before i copped it tho. seems like the MPC 4000 does all the 2500 does and swings better and sounds punchier.

holler



1. I'm still waiting for Akai to send me the 128 (and cd drive). Then I will return the 64 to the dude from ebay.

2. Yeah, I use job shop all the time. But for this particular sample, I knew didn't have enough RAM left to use chop shop, so I tried extract the parts I wanted instead. I had already chopped up the main part of the sample in chop shop and layed it down. Then I reloaded the entire song back in and tried extracting other small parts I wanted to use as fillers and shyt. I didn't wanna chop up the whole song. But even still, I had 6.4MB free RAM left, which was about 32 seconds of stereo time. That should have been plenty to extract a 1 second portion of the sample. I use extract on nearly all my beats and never ran into this. Must be the size of the sample.

As for swing and note repeat, I don't see a difference at all. I don't use note repeat on most of my beats though. But the swing seems on point to me. Note repeat shouldn't be cutting any frequencies since it's just simulating you hitting the pad repeatedly. The only suggestion I can give you for this is try to note repeat with the sample on Poly so it will overlap itself. Just beware of the sound distortion and clipping.
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By nod records Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:07 am
word

that lack of mids is just in the sound straight up. i've heard other people say it too about the 2500 and the 1000. the swing when ur just boom bapn is cool, but with the note repeat (for snare rolls, shuffle hats, etc...) doesn't seem as tight. i'm tryn to get more creative with my drum programming than i have in the past with my other beats. i'm tryn to get some aggressive style drums with a live feel. give the beats more dynamics.

overall i love the machine. it's def. got a sound of it's own, just like all the different MPC's do.

you're gonna love that cd/dvd drive and the extra RAM. crazy sample time and sampling right off a CD in the machine are great.

stay up!
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By DJ Hellfire Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:22 am
Yeah, man, I been getting good snare rolls no prob will it. Did a beat just last night where I used one. I think I used 1/32(3) to get it the way I wanted it, plus a 16 levels velocity to give it a fade in roll effect. Works great for me! Definitely my new pride and joy though! Best $1700 I've spent in a while!
By _Stilo_ Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:29 pm
DJ Hellfire wrote:The other thing is that the sample I am trying to extract the piece from is about 40MB. Could that be why?

Yea, sounds like it, doesn't it? The memory management on these new MPCs is simply hilarious...