MPC5000 reviews, bug reports and fellow user support on the most recent standalone, hardware MPC from Akai
By Sovereign Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:16 pm
J-tawn wrote:I dont understand why you need that much ram in your mPC.. i have the 1000 and iv been able to still make full beats with 16mb, i just dont leave any unecessary sounds in my trim basket

It's method based and also some do live shows.
Live shows means loading up a full set prior to starting.
By Sovereign Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:23 pm
dabmeister wrote:
J-tawn wrote:
Askia Shaheed wrote:I just got finished eating a $60 steak you can cut with a fork. :P (no it doesn't have anything to do with this topic).

Anyway..after spending thousands on an MPC, I am not concerned with a few hundred for memory. Memory that I really don't need and has never asked for. 128 MB is fine...192 MB is superb. ( what else did you expect me to say as a fanboy :P )


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if your using more then 300 MB theres gota be something wrong with your work flow
that just really sounds like the guy who cant get enough equipment


How about if I say that what I need to get done in doing music production requires about 10% usage from the mpc without the sampling. The rest is purely skill with other instruments.

And gone are the days when I use to do everything in the box (I never did everything in the mpc anyway). So keep in mind that everybodys roots are set differently. Some are rooted firmly and thoroughly, while some are rooted in loose soil.

It's all about ones mindset.


dabmeister, no disrespect but you really need to understand your methods are not the only way to work.
In order for others to respect your methods you have to respect theirs.
Many people use their MPC to capture their live performance and then manipulate them.
It's what works for the MV, the Fantom and now 5k.
This is the reason Akai felt the 5k would benefit from the hard disk recording instead of massive ram.
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By dabmeister Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:02 pm
Sovereign wrote:dabmeister, no disrespect but you really need to understand your methods are not the only way to work.
In order for others to respect your methods you have to respect theirs.
Many people use their MPC to capture their live performance and then manipulate them.
It's what works for the MV, the Fantom and now 5k.
This is the reason Akai felt the 5k would benefit from the hard disk recording instead of massive ram.


Sov, I understand man. I know that everybody has their own way and direction on how they'd like to use their mpc or maybe even tried other methods towards composing. By all means my workflow might be the minority around here and I'm cool with that. Though I'm still learning and finding out new methods and ways from a lot of you great forum members, most of the just previously posted threads I posted was me ranting @ Rome.

Nothing against anybody else. And if I offended anybody, my bad.
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By J-tawn Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:24 pm
Sovereign wrote:
J-tawn wrote:I dont understand why you need that much ram in your mPC.. i have the 1000 and iv been able to still make full beats with 16mb, i just dont leave any unecessary sounds in my trim basket

It's method based and also some do live shows.
Live shows means loading up a full set prior to starting.

ah .... k my bad that makes sense
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By Askia Shaheed Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:50 pm
Would it be possible for Akai to make 512MB RAM expansion for the current 5K? No. Do you need 512 MB in a live set? No. Why? Because musicians have been doing live sets with MPCs that have 32 MB of memory. But 512 MB is the magical number for today's live musicians? Well, you take a lap top and have gigs of sounds at your finger tips.
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By mr_debauch Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:53 am
Askia Shaheed wrote:Would it be possible for Akai to make 512MB RAM expansion for the current 5K? No. Do you need 512 MB in a live set? No. Why? Because musicians have been doing live sets with MPCs that have 32 MB of memory. But 512 MB is the magical number for today's live musicians? Well, you take a lap top and have gigs of sounds at your finger tips.



1) the 5k require more ram because it has more features.

2) Using laptop instead defeats the purpose of using the 5k for live situations with that logic... We could have been using laptops with superior specs for years and never even considered an MPC.


I dont think it is possible to use more memory because the structure of the machine most likely can't allocate it. I cant say for sure because I dont know how the machine's structure is set up...

Maybe there might be a new method to doing live events utilizing the hard drive on the machine... I guess that needs to be explored. I am sure these guys took live situations into consideration.


Anyways more ram is always a good thing...... it means we can have more sounds. Why debate how much a person needs? I do think maybe the 4K needed to have that 512 incase people were using 24bit waves which I assume take up more space... but this machine has more stuff running on it that requires ram.


If we knew some info on the main board, and a few other things we mightbe able to calculate the max it can theoretically take, but I am not sure of that calculation.
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By Askia Shaheed Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:04 am
1) the 5k require more ram because it has more features.

2) Using laptop instead defeats the purpose of using the 5k for live situations with that logic... We could have been using laptops with superior specs for years and never even considered an MPC.


1. The new features do not call for more memory. In fact, they call for less memory. Previously, I was creating multi-sample programs by sampling every note of a keyboard and then assigning it to a program chromatically. I don't have to sample every note anymore using keygroup programs.

2. Not using an MPC to its full capabilities defeats the purpose of buying such a device. The 5000 has 4 MIDI outputs and 12 Q-link knobs/sliders that can control external devices..such as a keyboard, sound module, and even a lap top running your favorite software. These functions are the very heart of the MPC 5000.
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By mr_debauch Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:17 am
Askia Shaheed wrote:
1) the 5k require more ram because it has more features.

2) Using laptop instead defeats the purpose of using the 5k for live situations with that logic... We could have been using laptops with superior specs for years and never even considered an MPC.


1. The new features do not call for more memory. In fact, they call for less memory. Previously, I was creating multi-sample programs by sampling every note of a keyboard and then assigning it to a program chromatically. I don't have to sample every note anymore using keygroup programs.

2. Not using an MPC to its full capabilities defeats the purpose of buying such a device. The 5000 has 4 MIDI outputs and 12 Q-link knobs/sliders that can control external devices..such as a keyboard, sound module, and even a lap top running your favorite software. These functions are the very heart of the MPC 5000.


so you are saying the 5k has too much ram then?
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By mr_debauch Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:37 am
Askia Shaheed wrote:^^^
I am saying that you need to understand what the MPC 5000 actually does. Sampling is just one aspect.



and for samples and all the other functions... there is too much ram on the 5k.. that is why they never offered any ram upgrades for the 5k.


If people want more ram, maybe its for a good reason... because the thing they wanna do requires it. WAV files are not exactly small.. so even if that is only one part of what the 5k does... that only proves that fact more.


Argue all you want, but people will still want more ram that unfortunately they cant get for the 5k (the machine they want to use) so I guess you are right, they have to resort to other gear that the flagship can not compensate for.
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By Askia Shaheed Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:45 am
I could be wrong (wouldn't be the first time) but this thread is about the possibility of using a 512MB Ram chip and not the fact that some people want more memory. You are not getting 512 MB of memory in the MPC 5000. There is no debate. So the options are to find something that fits your needs or use the 5K for what it is designed to do..which is to be the center of your music production setup.
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By mr_debauch Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:11 am
Askia Shaheed wrote:I could be wrong (wouldn't be the first time) but this thread is about the possibility of using a 512MB Ram chip and not the fact that some people want more memory.


those are two of the same man.. why would someone ask if it were possible if they didn't want more memory...

Not saying everyone needs it... but this guy does and was wondering if it were possible.